Alright let's go all-out now, here are my refutations :-)
TradeFederationSympathy wrote:I wish George would have kept to the "used" galaxy look, this is partly what gives Star Wars its character. The ships in the Pre-quals have an entirely different look and feel. I understand that maybe they are meant to look new and clean before the war and before the Empire took hold but come on, clean isn't Star Wars.
I disagree. If you look at Tatooine in Ep1, and Geonosis in Ep2 for instance, they're as dirty as the OT's locales. Coruscant -- especially the senate district -- should be squeaky clean, no? It's the seat of power for the entire galaxy! And Theed, of course that should be clean! They're rich! :-) What about Cloud City in the OT? That was clean as a whistle. And Han and his rag-tag MF, well they're so gritty because they're outlaw smugglers. The Death Star seems pretty clean!
They should have taken every possible chance to still use puppets for the aliens and characters, ex. Yoda. CGI crap is not good enough to replicate the look of something that is meant to be physically on set.
Quite the opposite. They did a really lousy job with Yoda in epI, I'm looking forward to them re-dubbing the image with CGI one day :-)
My example, Dexter... he looked like crap!
You'd have had to significantly simplify the character to do it as a puppet, which I guess would have been fine but I'll give you this point :-)
Well we saw him for all of 2 seconds, not really worth the animatronics :)
Sebulba...crap! Battledroids...mostly crap!
Impossible to puppetize these, too skinny, too complex. They did a fine job!! :-) The reason all the muppets / funny costumes worked so well in the OT is because none of them really did anything but sit around or stand around. It's pretty much impossible to do that when the role requires significant movement!
and for the actor choices, most of us feel Lucas screwed this one up. Swap out both Anakin's of course. Keep Mace,
Now that I'm accustomed to Hayden I don't mind him anymore, nor can I think of anyone else I'd rather have seen. But agreed that he wasn't perfect.
Dooku (even though the story could have been told without him)
Surely you jest!!! He's one of my favorite characters!! He's the dark side equivalent to the old Obi-Wan, it's brilliant. Plus a fallen Jedi of his stature shows just how powerful the draw of the dark side really is, so we don't end up thinking it's just stupid naive kids that can fall prey to it, and also how persuasive and cunning Palps is!
Obi-Wan and maybe Padme and Anthony Daniels.
Agreed, but for Padme it's the same deal as Hayden: I cannot think of anyone else who could have done it better.
It is improbable that Vader made 3P0 so maybe slip him in but not in this cheesy unbelievable way.
It was indeed preposterous :-)
R2 should not have a bunch of amazing powers that he did not have in the OT. Ex. his side lift rockets. :roll:
When in the OT would rockets have come in handy for little R2? And all his instruments like the ones to repair and drag C-3PO during the Geonosis arena scene, well he whipped out quite an arsenal in ROTJ as well, so the little guy is really packing! :-)
Chewie should not have been forced into the movie. Wookies are fine, just not the only specific Wookie that we already know.
Chewie was Tarful's son. That's a perfectly reasonable reason to have him there. He's not prominent, he just happened to survive the genocide, hence it is why he goes into hiding as a pirate! I like it!
And the development of the clone troopers is horrible. The clones should have come right out of the factory looking like Stormtroopers with no deviation in armor color or design.
That's insane. It is perfectly reasonable to expect that the army would upgrade their armor to suit field conditions, and that with the war being fought on so many fronts, that the different regiments would need to be easily distinguished from one another. Also, clones do have their own personalities and affinity for taste and what not. Troops in Viet-Nam routinely had unique items, such as markings on their helmets and such. Besides, how boring to have these ubiquitous troops in this vast war, would have sucked. Once the war ends, then they normalize the armor and it's pretty squeaky clean, btw. In peace time you don't need much differentiation.
The weapons and ships used by the Republic should have been Tie fighters and Star Destroyers. Why not connect the dots easily instead of leaving a vague unconnected storyline?
Again, 20 years is a long time for the defense contractors to provide upgrades to suit the conditions, and to take advantage of technology advances. All the ships in the PT do have a look reminiscent of the designs from the OT, they're just not quite there. That's like saying that since we now have helicopters with two propellers, that it makes no sense that we once had helicopters with just one :-)
Stop it with all of the clone color variations, if the Scout troopers on Endor couldn't figure out camo then I sure as heck assume several generations earlier didn't have camo either.
The requirements during war time and peace time are different!
because of all of the lame scenes which occurred on Geonosis. I hated it when they had C-3P0 flying around in the droid factory and then got his head knocked onto a battledroid, AND YET he was still able to talk, and control his new body. I dislike the jokes made by 3P0 when his head is knocked off in the arena. EP II just has so many disappointing parts. :x
Comic relief my friend. A little more pronounced than in the OT, yes, but think how annoying threeso was in EpV with Han too? And his cowardice again in ROTJ? As far as the droid technology, it seems that the different droid parts are standardized with the connector ports they use. IE, like USB connectors. Any head / CPU can go onto any motor body. That is why threeso is confused when he gets a battle droid body, and the battle droid is confused when he gets a protocol droid body. Perfectly reasonable. If you complain about that, then why not complain that droids need to talk to one another using vocal languages at all? Why don't they just send each other streams of 1's and 0's over wireless ethernet? All the chit chat between the droids at Jabba's palace really shows there's no such interface, only the big system-wide mainframes are accessible in that way (the computers on board the death star and the invisible hand, for instance, which R2 interfaces with.)
So there, hah! I win! :-)
BTW, I'd been thinking about this droid-to-droid communication lately and wondering why they don't have a more efficient standardized way of communication amongst themselves. I figure maybe the galaxy went through the equivalent of the Butlerian Jihad
that is part of the lore in Dune
many generations ago. That is, they did develop all their droids to be massively networked and all, but these became too powerful and uncontrollable and took over just like in the Terminator
series. So, whereas "thinking machines" are completely outlawed in the Dune universe, maybe they compromised in the Star Wars universe and decided to make each "thinking machine" completely autonomous and unable to collaborate with other thinking machines in any way more efficient than they would with sentients, thus rendering them more or less benign.