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I learned today at work that one of my coworkers is a huge Star Wars fan. We normally don't work in the same area so we didn't talk much. Anyway, we started discussing the Mandalorian of course and we talked about Chapter 11. We talked about the helmet issue and how it fixed a plot hole. He thinks it's more than just fixing the plot. He had read an article that allegedly reported tension on the set and Pedro Pascal walking out on the show. It talked about him being upset with not being able to show his face. My coworker thinks that they not only brought in Bo Katan to fix the helmet situation but also so that in the future Din Djarin could take of his helmet if he begins to change his beliefs, thus keeping Pedro Pascal happy. Any thoughts?
 

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That was the first thing I told my girlfriend when the episode ended. I wonder if they want to make it seem like he’s in a cult, and even other Mandalorians think it’s crazy...And that way he can take off the helmet and it also builds his character.

For some reason, my girlfriend is enamored with the behind the scenes and issues within this show. She doesn’t care about any other show’s turmoil, but she knows everything about The Mandalorian’s set issues, Twitter feuds, etc. She agreed, Pedro Pascal is probably really pulling for this storyline to come back around.
 

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darthapathy":s2bv5ju2 said:
He had read an article that allegedly reported tension on the set and Pedro Pascal walking out on the show. It talked about him being upset with not being able to show his face. My coworker thinks that they not only brought in Bo Katan to fix the helmet situation but also so that in the future Din Djarin could take of his helmet if he begins to change his beliefs, thus keeping Pedro Pascal happy. Any thoughts?

I read that, too, and whether it's true or not, it is a legitimate point. How many actors want to play behind a mask for the duration of a series? Not many, because the face is good at expressing things and helps the audience to connect with the actor (of course I say this and realize that for 99% of the Original Trilogy we never saw Vader's face) and I'm sure Pascal doesn't want his CV to be mime acting and VO work as talented as he is (Jodo, you have acting experience, what do you think?). Plus, I have no idea how comfortable it is to wear it all the time on the set. If this is the case regarding the helmet issue, Bo-Katan serves as a double purpose with the helmet and where to find Ahsoka. Who knows, maybe the Mandalorian helps Bo-Katan retake Mandalore? I'm sure they will both be there to face Moff Gideon since the plots seem to intersect.

But a question: obviously the helmet-on policy is new because we saw in Clone Wars and Rebels Mandalorians were walking around with helmets off. So are the "Children of the Watch" a newer faction that derived from "Death Watch"?
 

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darthvlad":2c8h7ix7 said:
darthapathy":2c8h7ix7 said:
He had read an article that allegedly reported tension on the set and Pedro Pascal walking out on the show. It talked about him being upset with not being able to show his face. My coworker thinks that they not only brought in Bo Katan to fix the helmet situation but also so that in the future Din Djarin could take of his helmet if he begins to change his beliefs, thus keeping Pedro Pascal happy. Any thoughts?

I read that, too, and whether it's true or not, it is a legitimate point. How many actors want to play behind a mask for the duration of a series? Not many, because the face is good at expressing things and helps the audience to connect with the actor (of course I say this and realize that for 99% of the Original Trilogy we never saw Vader's face) and I'm sure Pascal doesn't want his CV to be mime acting and VO work as talented as he is (Jodo, you have acting experience, what do you think?). Plus, I have no idea how comfortable it is to wear it all the time on the set. If this is the case regarding the helmet issue, Bo-Katan serves as a double purpose with the helmet and where to find Ahsoka. Who knows, maybe the Mandalorian helps Bo-Katan retake Mandalore? I'm sure they will both be there to face Moff Gideon since the plots seem to intersect.

But a question: obviously the helmet-on policy is new because we saw in Clone Wars and Rebels Mandalorians were walking around with helmets off. So are the "Children of the Watch" a newer faction that derived from "Death Watch"?

I don't know...Pascal is associated with the Mandalorian, and I think any viewer would imagine he is in the suit at all times. Unfortunately, he actually isn't in the suit much, and as you mentioned, he is really doing voice over work for the series. I’m sure he would much rather be in the suit and showing his face. And yes, my costumes have all been uncomfortable to a degree, but if you’re being paid, you can take it. LOL.

For me, I agree on his perspective that is sucks to not be seen as the character your portraying (especially in a show that has garnered so much attention). You want to be seen on screen. Any little additional thing you do, the little nuisances and non-verbal communication you can convey through your face, increases the odds that you will be featured in the film even more. If you keep acting through a scene, even once your dialogue stops, and you stay engaged, the editor might do insert shots of your reactions, etc. and you get shown more. That is really why you’re on set in the first place…To be seen.

But if you're wearing a helmet then no one can see any of those little moments. So that may also be an issue for him. You are there showcase what you can do, and literally anyone athletic enough to do his stunts could be in the suit. They don’t really need him to be there, and I imagine that is what upsets him. Other people do his work, and then he comes in and sees that, records the dialogue, and thinks, “that could be me doing that. It SHOULD be me doing that.”

I am sure they told him that he is playing a masked character though, and the severe limitation he is at odds with, really just comes with the territory. So I can see his perspective, but at the same time, realistically, he should have known it was going to be like this.
 

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Excellent points, everyone.

I truly hope they put this "never takes off his mask" b.s. behind and the character grows a little.

It's no wonder Pascal is (likely) frustrated by all of this. Actors want their faces show and it's not really vanity, but it's how you do your job.

I think the Mandalorian is super problematic as a result. Not only do you never get to see his face, but the guy barely ever talks. I find it personally very difficult to connect with the character.

Being a "stoic badass" isn't enough to hang a series on. They need to fix this issue!
 

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That is the funny thing to me, I actually don't mind it. I know that's his real "face," and even he sees himself that way. And I know exactly why I think that too...

Kane not removing his helmet in Era of Darkness, LOL.